New York City’s diverse and dynamic nature can be a double edged sword. We are surrounded by businesses, restaurants, and neighborhoods of all shapes and sizes, but there’s no doubt – New York City and its 8.85 million residents are LOUD. So, how do you find a quiet apartment in New York City?
In general, pre-war apartments tend to be quieter than their post-war or new construction counterparts. Before WWII, thicker walls, thicker floors, and wood doors were standard building practices. These go a long way towards reducing noise transfer from one unit to the next.
While this newfound knowledge can help you narrow down your Manhattan apartment search a bit, our New York City real estate expertise has taught us a number of tricks to find a peaceful home in the city that never sleeps. In the rest of this post, we’ll share those tips with you and drill down on what makes pre-war apartments so desirable when it comes to a quiet apartment in New York City.
A Brief Pre-War Apartment History
Pre-War Era
To be crystal clear, the “war” in pre-war is WWII. In other words, ‘pre-war’ refers to the construction in the era between 1890ish and 1942. At the time, labor was inexpensive and plentiful, which contributed to the rapid growth that NYC saw in that time period.
Resources were in abundance, so it was standard to have thick masonry exterior walls and lath and plaster interior walls. Poured concrete floors were the norm, as were solid wood doors throughout these buildings. Elevator shafts were typically faced in thick masonry as well.
Post-War Era
When the United States joined WWII, construction materials were diverted to military efforts and many laborers joined the fight. This meant that builders had to make do with what resources and workers they had. Walls and floors became thinner as corners were cut to successfully house people with the restrictions the war effort placed on civilians.
By the time the war ended and soldiers returned home, building practices had shifted permanently. In other words, we entered the era of post-war construction. And the era of buildings without a quiet apartment in New York City.
New Construction
In the 1990s, pretty much all the boroughs underwent significant neighborhood revitalization thanks to efforts by the city and local government. Much like pre-war times, the city saw significant changes in a small period of time. We now refer to this era as ‘new construction’, a term that is typically applied to apartments built in 1990 or later.
What Makes a Pre-War Building Quieter?
Lath and Plaster Walls
Lath and plaster walls are responsible for a great deal of the soundproofing in pre-war apartments. And while it’s not commonplace anymore, lath and plaster was about as common in the pre-war era as drywall/sheetrock is today.
Lath and plaster walls are built by tacking 1×4” laths (narrow wooden boards) to the wall studs horizontally. Two rough layers of lime or gypsum plaster are applied over the laths to fill any gaps between the boards and create a smooth wall surface. Last, a smooth white plaster finish is applied, creating a wall surface that averages ⅝-¾” thick.
In contrast, modern drywall is typically only ½” thick, and it is directly tacked to the studs, rather than being backed by wooden laths. Drywall is much more porous and light compared to plaster, which is very dense.
These differences mean that modern construction walls without soundproofing interventions are much more likely to let noise bleed through than lath and plaster walls, making lath and plaster the obvious choice for a quiet apartment in New York City.
Poured Concrete Floors
Pre-war floors were usually made by pouring a thick concrete slab, usually about 7” thick before the subfloor and wood flooring were added. Meanwhile, modern concrete and steel slabs can be as thin as 3”.
The floors are not only concrete, but they also encase solid steel beams which further strengthen the floors and dampen sound. In other words, the construction practices of pre-war floors make them inherently good at dissipating sound.
Solid Wood vs Hollow Core Doors
Before WWII, interior and exterior doors were commonly made of solid wood, which is quite good at dampening sound. In the post-war construction period however, hollow core wooden doors and later fiberglass or aluminum doors became popular. So modern apartments aren’t the best choice for a quiet apartment in New York City.
If you want to experience the difference between solid wood and hollow core doors yourself, check your front door – it’s much more likely to be solid wood than any other door in your home. Compare the sound that travels through a solid wood door against your interior doors and you’ll clearly notice that the thicker the door, the more sound isolation there is.
Exterior Masonry
Pre-war apartment buildings also relied on extremely thick masonry on exterior walls to regulate temperature and prevent moisture from getting inside, which had the unexpected benefit of also reducing street noise.
Just like interior walls, concrete floors, and doors, the post-war construction era lacked the materials and labor needed to build the massive stone walls found in the pre-war era, so exterior walls became thinner and more permeable to sound over time.
Experienced Broker’s Tips to Finding a Quiet Apartment in New York City
Here are our tips for finding a lovely, quiet apartment in New York City:
- Look for a higher floor apartment. The more distance you put between yourself and the various noises of the street, the quieter you can expect your new home to be.
- What does the apartment face? Street oriented apartments get all the traffic and siren noise, while apartments facing the rear of the building generally get much less of that bleeding through.
- Pay close attention to the surrounding buildings. Noise from neighborhood to neighborhood can greatly differ. Similarly, watch out for bars or nightclubs nearby. The quietest neighborhoods are usually filled with residential or office buildings.
- Check the Hush City App from the building your prospective apartment is in. Hush City is essentially Yelp for noise levels. Users can review any location’s acoustics and you can cross reference that in your apartment search. (This is not a sponsored post, we just find the app really useful!)
- Attend multiple open houses/showings of an apartment you’re considering (if possible). By viewing the apartment on different days and at different times of day, you’ll get a sense of what it’s really like living there. Try and get an evening viewing if you can, to see what it sounds like when you’re tired after a long day and want to wind down.
- Talk to potential future neighbors (with your real estate broker’s blessing). They’ll be able to give you an honest view into what living in the building is really like. Even if the apartment is in a pre-war building, if your upstairs neighbors ripped out all the walls for an open concept floorplan, their flooring is going to be much more flexible, which means you’ll hear more creaks and footfalls. Run this idea by your broker first, though. If your apartment is in a co-op building, chatting up the neighbors could potentially impact your future application to purchase. Always take the guidance of your real estate agent on this topic.
- Make note of what it sounds like when you tour an apartment. If the floors, doors, or walls are noisy in your apartment, your upstairs or next door neighbor’s apartments will probably be just as loud.
- Ask your real estate attorney to take a look at noise complaints filed with the board of the building. This is typically done during the due diligence period and is an easy way to get a clear picture of how the building sounds over time.
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Finding a Quiet Apartment In New York City
While it may seem impossible to find yourself the soundproof apartment of your dreams, with our tricks and the insider knowledge of what type of apartment building to prioritize in your search, you’ll be sleeping easy in your new home before you know it.
If you buy on a high floor at the rear of a pre-war building in a mostly residential or office building filled neighborhood, you’ll likely be set to enjoy a relatively quiet existence in the city for years to come.
The members of the Gasdaska Conlon Team know that purchasing an apartment in New York City can be a daunting task. The Manhattan Real Estate Market moves fast and can be difficult to predict. Please, don’t hesitate to reach out if you or anyone in your household has any questions about the process, or if you are in the market to buy or sell an apartment but don’t know who to work with. We love to help where we can.
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